Disappointing to say the least. I'm tired of raids like this and apparently I seem to be the only one that cares around here. I shouldn't have go jump over our CoGMs heads and get on to people for goofing off, but yet, I'm finding myself needing to.
First off. Someone pulled Marrow, I don't care who, I heard the name over and over in chat thanks to nitrofury. "GROVE PULLED! I SAW HIM!!" What do you want? A cookie? I heard you the first time, no need for the 4 or 5th time. What are we? Third graders?? We GET it. You people don't seem to understand there is NO POINT in spamming vent. So my question is, why the heck did we wipe??? Because everyone had their thumbs up their asses that's why. Second time people didn't want to release. Stop being a prick and just do it.
Second. Lady Deathwhisper. Why wasn't the druid cycloning people? Furthermore, why the heck where you guys casting aoe attacks?? I don't give a rats ass if it's in your rotation, STOP DOING IT. Your killing your raid members. I've tried polying people but everyone gets out of poly to quickly. Sloppy.
Then we get to Deathbringer. What the heck was going on here? Fudo and Arth start bickering like little 3rd graders and Fudo refuses to attack because he doesn't have kings?? Seriously. Grow up. Arth, I heard you where taking it off him, you need to grow up too. What would Abysm have done if he was in this raid?? He'd have told you both to shut up. I ask the CoGMs WHY they let them do this.
Rotface... Do I even need to say anything about this fight? First off we wipe 5 times? I lost count. DO NOT AOE ATTACK!!!!!!! If you have aoe attacks DONT USE THEM!!!! How hard is it??? How hard is it to listen to simple instructions?? How hard is it to ask someone what do they mean by running out to the OTs? ASK THE QUESTIONS!!! Mutated infections needs to be cleansed or you guys need to run out to the OTs who have the big ozzes so that someone can cleanse you/the little ooze can spawn and they can use the big ooze they have to swipe it up. This isn't just their fault. I have healed ICC 10 on my shammy and Natty on his druid and when we got to rotface, I can see the mutated infection on healbot. Really not that hard to see, the green bar turns purple. I have my cure toxins set to my middle button, I simply click that person and boom it's gone. Problem solved. We had ONE unstable in icc 10. We have 5 healers in icc 25, why aren't ANY of you helping out with this? And please, I don't want to hear any excuses. Get healbot or something to make your life and our raiding easier. This doesn't mean that people DONT need to listen though. So from my point of view, it's both sides fault, not working together.
And for those of you that are blind. You get a green gas cloud on you. I don't know how many people I saw just standing there that are veterans to this fight. Also dbm tells us WHO has the mutated infection. Cleanse?
Lets continue on the rant about rotface. We invited a full donor boomkin. Awesome? Great? You guys went nuts over this guy. I seriously thought all of you where going to have heard attacks with him just being there. Guess what? That boomkin died twice and his dps wasn't that oustanding, I topped it a few times and I don't have all heroic gear. But... what did you guys do? Go on and on and on and on and on < and another on about him in vent.
CoGMs? Hello? You there?
Didn't think so.
I'm sick of this. I was already told by abysm what I could do if things like this happened by WHY should an officer have to step up to the plate of being the ass when there are three cogms in our raid?? If you guys truly don't care anymore about this guild, step down and let someone else take over instead. This guild is falling apart because it needs structure and leadership during raids like that.
What would abysm do? Fudo and Arth, you both should have been kicked out of the raid. But guess what? Arth left in the middle of it. Abysm would probably kick you from the guild now, or "talk" with you. At the same time if Abysm had of been here, you guys wouldn't have attacked like that now would you?
Both of you have been in this guild longer than me. But the maturity level in icc 25 lacks a considerable amount. As veteran members of "Demoted" there is a certain expectation from you both. For example, a new member would have been kicked simple as that. But as veterans, your given chances.
We have to set examples for the new members. I feel at this point that all the other guilds are much better than us. I used to not think this way and I don't like it now.
Next ICC 25, if I'm still here and haven't G quit. I don't care who is on. I'm sick of this kind of crap and if you don't listen to me, dkp will be taken off and if you continue to act immaturely, I will kick you from the raid and replace you with another member or a pug. YES PUG. Get over yourself, you can be replaced. If I have to go so far as to mute everyone in vent, I will. Only people that should be talking DURING a raid is the CoGMs, officers, tanks, and healers. The constant jabber that we receive during Icc raids is coming to a stop.
Abysm isn't here, big deal. ONE PERSON. So stop acting like your daddy and mommy have finally gone from the house and you have it all to yourself. I've been sitting back, watching, and waiting for you cogms to step up to the plate and do your job. But none of you haven't.
I'd like to add this. Natty can't do this all by himself. Other two cogms? Where is his help in the raids? With abysm being gone so long, everyone has gotten sloppy. It's a sad thing that only one person was able to keep everyone in line by being a dick. How can we call ourselves a good raiding guild with crap like this?
Who else is tired of raids being like this?
First off. Someone pulled Marrow, I don't care who, I heard the name over and over in chat thanks to nitrofury. "GROVE PULLED! I SAW HIM!!" What do you want? A cookie? I heard you the first time, no need for the 4 or 5th time. What are we? Third graders?? We GET it. You people don't seem to understand there is NO POINT in spamming vent. So my question is, why the heck did we wipe??? Because everyone had their thumbs up their asses that's why. Second time people didn't want to release. Stop being a prick and just do it.
Second. Lady Deathwhisper. Why wasn't the druid cycloning people? Furthermore, why the heck where you guys casting aoe attacks?? I don't give a rats ass if it's in your rotation, STOP DOING IT. Your killing your raid members. I've tried polying people but everyone gets out of poly to quickly. Sloppy.
Then we get to Deathbringer. What the heck was going on here? Fudo and Arth start bickering like little 3rd graders and Fudo refuses to attack because he doesn't have kings?? Seriously. Grow up. Arth, I heard you where taking it off him, you need to grow up too. What would Abysm have done if he was in this raid?? He'd have told you both to shut up. I ask the CoGMs WHY they let them do this.
Rotface... Do I even need to say anything about this fight? First off we wipe 5 times? I lost count. DO NOT AOE ATTACK!!!!!!! If you have aoe attacks DONT USE THEM!!!! How hard is it??? How hard is it to listen to simple instructions?? How hard is it to ask someone what do they mean by running out to the OTs? ASK THE QUESTIONS!!! Mutated infections needs to be cleansed or you guys need to run out to the OTs who have the big ozzes so that someone can cleanse you/the little ooze can spawn and they can use the big ooze they have to swipe it up. This isn't just their fault. I have healed ICC 10 on my shammy and Natty on his druid and when we got to rotface, I can see the mutated infection on healbot. Really not that hard to see, the green bar turns purple. I have my cure toxins set to my middle button, I simply click that person and boom it's gone. Problem solved. We had ONE unstable in icc 10. We have 5 healers in icc 25, why aren't ANY of you helping out with this? And please, I don't want to hear any excuses. Get healbot or something to make your life and our raiding easier. This doesn't mean that people DONT need to listen though. So from my point of view, it's both sides fault, not working together.
And for those of you that are blind. You get a green gas cloud on you. I don't know how many people I saw just standing there that are veterans to this fight. Also dbm tells us WHO has the mutated infection. Cleanse?
Lets continue on the rant about rotface. We invited a full donor boomkin. Awesome? Great? You guys went nuts over this guy. I seriously thought all of you where going to have heard attacks with him just being there. Guess what? That boomkin died twice and his dps wasn't that oustanding, I topped it a few times and I don't have all heroic gear. But... what did you guys do? Go on and on and on and on and on < and another on about him in vent.
CoGMs? Hello? You there?
Didn't think so.
I'm sick of this. I was already told by abysm what I could do if things like this happened by WHY should an officer have to step up to the plate of being the ass when there are three cogms in our raid?? If you guys truly don't care anymore about this guild, step down and let someone else take over instead. This guild is falling apart because it needs structure and leadership during raids like that.
What would abysm do? Fudo and Arth, you both should have been kicked out of the raid. But guess what? Arth left in the middle of it. Abysm would probably kick you from the guild now, or "talk" with you. At the same time if Abysm had of been here, you guys wouldn't have attacked like that now would you?
Both of you have been in this guild longer than me. But the maturity level in icc 25 lacks a considerable amount. As veteran members of "Demoted" there is a certain expectation from you both. For example, a new member would have been kicked simple as that. But as veterans, your given chances.
We have to set examples for the new members. I feel at this point that all the other guilds are much better than us. I used to not think this way and I don't like it now.
Next ICC 25, if I'm still here and haven't G quit. I don't care who is on. I'm sick of this kind of crap and if you don't listen to me, dkp will be taken off and if you continue to act immaturely, I will kick you from the raid and replace you with another member or a pug. YES PUG. Get over yourself, you can be replaced. If I have to go so far as to mute everyone in vent, I will. Only people that should be talking DURING a raid is the CoGMs, officers, tanks, and healers. The constant jabber that we receive during Icc raids is coming to a stop.
Abysm isn't here, big deal. ONE PERSON. So stop acting like your daddy and mommy have finally gone from the house and you have it all to yourself. I've been sitting back, watching, and waiting for you cogms to step up to the plate and do your job. But none of you haven't.
I'd like to add this. Natty can't do this all by himself. Other two cogms? Where is his help in the raids? With abysm being gone so long, everyone has gotten sloppy. It's a sad thing that only one person was able to keep everyone in line by being a dick. How can we call ourselves a good raiding guild with crap like this?
Who else is tired of raids being like this?